Pair Trade Ideas

Started Sep 30 2009 at 8:32AM (EST) (By dirtyharry)

Symbols: CHRW, WYNN, OC, S, DH, MHK, KEP, SRCL, TTM, BYI, WEC, EXPD, OSK, CBE, WM, AME

I am executing a couple of pair trades in my real money account. I can't do them here because I'm unable to short stocks, but here they are:

Buy: BYI
Sell: WYNN

Buy: WEC
Sell: KEP

These trades, assuming the go as planned, will probably be exited in 1.5 to 3 weeks. Each leg of the trade should be bought/sold in the same dollar amount to keep the trade balanced. Trading in this manner should help to reduce volatility while still allowing for reasonable short-term gains.

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VicthebrickV

VicthebrickV

Oct 01 2009 at 12:55AM (EST)

What is the premise for the first one? Buy gaming slots / technology and short overbought casino's?

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KanGuru

KanGuru

Oct 01 2009 at 4:55AM (EST)

Harry, I'm on board with this trade if you promise to give a heads up for the exit.

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dirtyharry

dirtyharry

Oct 01 2009 at 8:07AM (EST)

Vic, the premise here is that I'm seeking companies in the same, or closely related industry that have some sort of price movement relationship. I'm going to try to embed the graphic:

BYI:WYNN

If that doesn't work, maybe this link will:

http://i573.pho​tobucket.com/alb​ums/ss175/kenadl​er71/byiwynn.png

Hopefully you can see this relationship illustrated. This is mostly a TA trade.

For the record, I am in both of these trades and here are my entry points:

BYI: $38.68 (long)
WYNN: $74.50 (short)

WEC: $45.47 (long)
KEP: $15.16 (short)

At the moment, on the 3 of the 4 I am down almost 1%. On WYNN, I'm up over 4.5% which means that for right now, I'm actually slightly net positive. The futures are look like we might have a down day, so the idea here is we'd like to see the shorts fall hard from their overbought positions. Most likely on a hard day down, the longs will also fall in price. The goal is to pick shorts that fall more than their counter part so there will be a net gain with reduced volatility.

In the end, most of the time a successful pair trade will have a winner and a loser, with the winner providing a larger gain than the loser lost. It's rare that both positions can be winners, but it certainly can happen.

KanGuru: I will post here when I exit the pair trades. You may also view the relationship yourself at stockcharts.com.

Where it asked for the symbol, type in:

BYI:WYNN

or

WEC:KEP

A relational chart will then be drawn. In this way you can follow along to get a visual of how the trades are progressing.

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dirtyharry

dirtyharry

Oct 09 2009 at 12:44PM (EST)

As promised - I'm updating this trade.

The BYI:WYNN trade has worked out beautifully. Sell BYI and buy to cover WYNN for a profit on both legs!

Made 8.6% on the WYNN short, and 5.2% on BYI. The blended net return: about 6.8%, in 10 days.

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VicthebrickV

VicthebrickV

Oct 09 2009 at 3:52PM (EST)

Nice trade!!

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dirtyharry

dirtyharry

Oct 09 2009 at 4:55PM (EST)

Thanks.... I'll post more like this as the arise. I'm in the process of building a favorites list so that I can easily go through the graphs on a daily basis and cherry pair trades that I think are about to turn the corner and give some profits......

Shame I can't trade them here due to not being able to short.......

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dirtyharry

dirtyharry

Oct 10 2009 at 5:25PM (EST)

OK new pair trade:

Buy: MHK
Short: OC

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TickerBandit

TickerBandit

Oct 11 2009 at 12:04AM (EST)

DirtyHarry,

What are your thoughts on MHK and OC?

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dirtyharry

dirtyharry

Oct 11 2009 at 5:55AM (EST)

As I mentioned, these are mainly TA trades. Here is a composite, comparative graph:

MHK:OC

Or here:

http://s5​73.photobu​cket.com/a​lbums/ss175​/kenadler7​1/?action=v​iew¤​t=mhkoc.png

The idea here is find two companies in the same or similar industry that are at or near technical opposites. This should allow the short position to perform very well in a down market (outperforming the drop of the long position which acts as a counter balance). In a rising market, the long position should outperform the short position rising, if it does rise against the trade.

These are short term swing trades that are designed to take advantage of arbitrage opportunities and disparities in stock prices among similar companies. They are not always low volatility, but hopefully they provide a little more stability than just going long or short. They should always be balanced, putting an equal amount of funds into each leg of the trade (ie, $10,000 long MHK, $10,000 short OC). This helps create a more neutral position so money can be made whether the market goes up or down, or even stays flat.

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TickerBandit

TickerBandit

Oct 11 2009 at 11:07AM (EST)

Thanks DH

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dirtyharry

dirtyharry

Oct 12 2009 at 1:38PM (EST)

MHK:OC is off to a great start!

Here are three new pair trades that may be executed at the market, right now:

Buy: AME
Short: CBE

Buy: EXPD
Short: CHRW

Buy: WM
Short: SRCL

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dirtyharry

dirtyharry

Oct 13 2009 at 3:52PM (EST)

Another pair trade for today:

Buy: TTM
Short: OSK

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dirtyharry

dirtyharry

Oct 13 2009 at 3:52PM (EST)

Not sure why the letter "S" keeps getting cut off on the word "Short".......

This post is more than 60 days old. Replying to it might be confusing for other members reading the discussion. By all means, keep the ball rolling and post a new opinion.

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